/wave <WoW>

[Tombstone]

Originally Posted by Nil

I keep getting tempted to follow this as I am a big fan of PvP (and DAoC remains my favorite MMO to date), but I worry that it's been tweaked a little too much to appeal to the masses of WoW players. Something seems to change it away from the hardcore every time I read more. That, and it doesn't have any rogues.

Doesn't have any rogues....yet.

The Greenskin, Dwarf, Chaos, and Empire races are the only ones with all classes intact.

Greenskin - Has Choppas which can duel wield, but not rogues.

There are 24 classes in the game, SIX races. How do they do it? No one class is the same.

There will be a rogue type class for ONE of the 2 remaining races High Elve/Dark Elve (I would think Dark Elve)

Yeah.

[Nil]

Originally Posted by Tombstone

Doesn't have any rogues....yet.

The Greenskin, Dwarf, Chaos, and Empire races are the only ones with all classes intact.

Greenskin - Has Choppas which can duel wield, but not rogues.

There are 24 classes in the game, SIX races. How do they do it? No one class is the same.

There will be a rogue type class for ONE of the 2 remaining races High Elve/Dark Elve (I would think Dark Elve)

Yeah.

I'll have to go find the quote but Paul Barnett and Mark Jacobs went on a tirade about how "This is WAR!" and stealth has no place there. They also said that all rogues were gankers.

[tehgeek]

Originally Posted by FEDS-91

The old SWG is kind of coming back. Sort of. Just has nothing to do with $OE.

Yeah I've investigated this a bit, I really miss old school SWG (was my 1st MMO).

[Herne]

I have played loads of MMo's and all have their good points...and bad...eg

UO
I started playing this before the Trammel/Feluca split. I stil remember seeing my 1st GM swordsman takning down a troll solo (i was 5 mins old hehe)...and all the fun i had leveling, making friends etc etc. I left on a high donating a large castle+rares to my guild after all the addons got too much.

DAoC(from closed Beta)
What a game...Hi to any Purple Warriors on the euro servers reading this! I loved the RvR and the outdoor raids on massive mobs. Then came ToA and killed it stone dead.

SWG
Played for a month...the free one...this had no good points imo....i was trying to make Bounty Hunter but when i discovered i was still farming the same mobs at high skill as i was as a beginner AND that i had to train others (i didn't have the cash to beg them with to let me train them...stupid bloody idea that was SOE) i gave up.

WoW(from closed beta)
Another great game. It was awesome to begin with. I was 3rd on on my server (alliance side) to 60 and my epic mount, was with a great guild BUT the gathering of forces to do large MC etc raids for the pathetic drop rates almost did it in, then they took PvP from the cross roads where it was a fantastic free flowing experience to stupid bloody CTF [edited by me] hole and alterac valley which had precisely zero poulation...killing it entierly for me. I refuse to go back even with the expansion as after killing Warmaster Voone in LBRS over 200 times and never seeing the damn hunter gloves drop i swore never to go back.

[Uln'Xeresy]

It Seems WoW sucked in alot of my old buds, and now i am trying to get them in to VG mentality.

[Fyrestrom]

Originally Posted by Uln'Xeresy

It Seems WoW sucked in alot of my old buds, and now i am trying to get them in to VG mentality.

Give them 90 days and they will be ready for something else.

[Exum]

I've put Vanguard on hold for the time being. Server-wise, the game plays great... As it should. But bug-wise, gameplay-performance, animation and combat-creativity-wise, it feels like Beta 5. I'll give it a few more months for Sigil to cross their T's and dot their I's and hopefully it pulls me back in. But I've gone back to The Burning Crusade to level my Druid and Warlock once more until I get painstakingly bored again.

It's not stopping me from covering the game, though!

[Snowman]

tbh i make no effort to get wow players to play VG..

I actually like the fact that most VG players are EQ players!.. if they were all wow players then all you would hear is "oh this part is like wow, oh thats different from wow... wow is much better at this..." blah blah blah..

So im kinda glad that Warhammer will be the game that sucks in wow players ..

Keep them all together and away from me!