VF - Stats Allocation

[Iskiab]

So I'm thinking of changing how I allocate all my stats but wanted some opinions first.

Atm I'm 4 dex, 4 con and 2 str per level.

I'm thinking of changing all my stats so I'm 4 str, 2 dex and 4 con per level. Now that I'm in my early 30s I'm noticing aggro is harder to hold then it was before in the 20s. In the 20s it was very easy to hold aggro, not so much anymore.

I'm thinking changing my stats around to max str might help with holding aggro. Plus with the block changes str helps with some avoidance. Not as much as maxing dex would, but it still helps.

I'm not worried about crits at all. In defensive stance crits don't do much for us. Stinging cut and Blades Bite sort of suck imo, plus they're on a 30 sec recast. I think I'd rather have extra str for holding aggro.

Has anyone maxed str or tried what I'm thinking of switching my stats to? Any comments?

[moloka]

I have a lot more dexterity then strength currently. I am not 100% sure what good it would do to switch to strength primarily over dexterity. That stinging cut and blades bite every 30 seconds is probably going to be more aggro then what strength gives you. The extra block chance opens up more windows for aggro with shield attacks, but those are also timed. I block quite often enough to keep all my block abilities going.

Least with keeping dexterity you get more options for aggro. With the nerf to regular swing dmg, it makes crits that much more critical.

For aggro I usually have a little trouble holding aggro, not going to lie heh. But I have found there is usually only one person in the group I have to worry about. 99% of the time its the damn bards, I keep them on defensive target, spam taunt, taunting strike and kick as endurance allows and pop the mob with any specials that happen in between. When someone yanks aggro ( typically bard/ranger) I have them on TD so I can withdraw them.

Something I noticed and im sure everyone has noticed this is aggro takes awhile to shift. I have found that if I pull with infuriating shot it gives me a good advantage on aggro. I feel that im more likely going to have problems getting aggro on the mob then losing it.

Hopefully one of these days these guys will learn to manage there aggro. I played a wizard in Everquest for 8 years. I had a tough time with aggro no matter who had what uber weapon and how good they were. I just had to adapt to my environment.

What they need to do to us is make taunt work like it did in EQ. Where taunt takes you to highest aggro person on list +1. That way when they gank aggro from us we can pop taunt and spam a couple quick attacks. Giving us a chance to hold aggro after getting it back.

[Iskiab]

Well things have changed aggrowise for me. It went from the 20s where I could hold aggro on 5 mobs at once to now where I lose aggro on a single mob to some classes.

Certain classes are worse then others. For me my group usually consists of me, psionicist, shaman, rogue, druid and one more, usually either BM, sorcerer, ranger or another psi.

I find psionicists pull aggro like crazy. They have a deaggro but the lazy one in my guild thinks that's for after he pulls aggro. The druid pulls aggro from time to time too. Ranger isn't bad. Rogue never pulls aggro.

Anyways, back on topic.

Blade's bite sucks. I've tried using it and not using it. I didn't notice a difference in aggro whatsoever. That's the main reason I'm thinking of switching to max str instead of dexterity.

All these dps classes are now critting like crazy which increases their dps a ton. When we crit all we get is blade's bite to help hold aggro, and it sucks. Plus, even if you disagree and think blade's bite is good it can only be done every 30 secs. 2 vs 4 points into dex will hardly make a difference in how much we crit.

Str on the other hand affects our autoattack damage and how much all our CAs do. So it will affect kick, shield bash and taunting strike. Plus it affects block % so there's a good defensive reason to put points into str.

I've almost decided I'm going to switch, I just want to hear more opinions or hear from someone who's maxed str atm to hear about how aggro's going for them.

[Kvani]

Don't switch.

From what I've heard, Warriors are getting some love soon in the hate generation department. ( and we need it )

Currently my stats go CON > DEX > STR/INT ( I mix this up a bit - ???'s = teh suck ).

I'm a dwarf which means every level I get +3 CON, +1 STR just from leveling. I add 4 CON, 4 DEX, 1 STR, 1 INT every level giving me 7 CON, 4 DEX, 2 STR, 1 INT every level.

[Iskiab]

Dwarves get 3 con and 1 wis per level.

Where did you hear we're getting help with aggro? I never read anything like that. Our aggro is good through the 20s but takes a nosedive through the 30s from what I've seen. It would be nice to get something but I'd like to see a link from a dev post about any change.

[Kvani]

Oh, right... WIS... thought it was STR.

Oh well, at least I can be a wise-ass now... :P

[Slowfood]

Lesser Giant here, currently going for 4str, 2con, 4 dex -> resulting in 8str 4con 5dex 1vit 1int 1wis for max meleedps/block, above average parry/crit and some hp/absorption

[Iskiab]

How's holding aggro? Are you 30+?

I've seen some warriors 30+ say that aggro isn't an issue for them. They usually have 250+ str compared to my 120 from not putting a lot of points into str.

With changes coming up I'm not sure what to do. I saw the list of changes and there wasn't anything that I saw that would help with argo too much. Decisions, decisions.

[moloka]

That might be somewhat of your problem Iskiab. What kind of gear do you have bro? I am sitting at lvl 32 right now and have 300+ Const 190 Dex 170 Str. Those numbers arent exact but pretty close. 120str is rather low. Have u been alternating in another stat your putting them into? Im not 100% sure what your level is but if your 25+ your lowest stat of the 3 should be a bit higher all of my gear is crafted. All has Const str and dex. Im not sure what stats quest items have but some of my pieces are cranking out 20+ of each.

You might check into that and see why its low. Then again it could be your level also but being 32 I shouldn't have 50str on you unless it was some type of gear adjustment.

[Iskiab]

So I switched to max str per level. I think it might have slightly made things better but I don't really see a difference. The one thing I'm surprised about is I don't notice a difference with crits at all. I still crit more then enough to use both defensive finishers at will.

My gear is crap on purpose. I don't see a point in upgrading gear, it just means more repair costs. Atm my bank is bugged and can't put items in my bank so I have a mish mash of stuff. I'm wearing the unupgraded MoP pieces for lack of anywhere to store them, along with the MoP belt and some level 20s yellow drops from nameds I've killed.

Repairs aren't bad, I maybe lose 10 silver a night adventuring so I'm right where I want to be. I talked to another warrior who's full MoP/Bounty Hunter gear and he lost 2gp over the double xp weekend in 2 days. I can handle 10 silver a night but 1gp a night would be too much. I think I'd reroll right there out of frustration rather then asking guildies for handouts so I'm exactly where I want to be.