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View Poll Results: Group size of a raid should be...
18-24 64 49.23%
24-38 29 22.31%
38-54 21 16.15%
54+ 16 12.31%
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Old 02-25-2006, 05:27 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Poll: Raid Size!

I have never been on a real raid but have been in mass battles and in my experience everytime lots of players get together the lag starts. Also I cannot ever see the point in doing the same dungeon 20+ times in order to get a bit of gear that enables you to do another dungeon 20+ times in order to get a bit of gear that enables you.................
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Re: Poll: Raid Size!

Me neither... I hope V:SoH will have some kind of meaningful end-game. But then again, crafting and diplomacy might be just that. Or, level an alt - with the possibilities offered by the game, I think I'll be entertained for at least a few years - and hopefully longer.
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Also I cannot ever see the point in doing the same dungeon 20+ times in order to get a bit of gear that enables you to do another dungeon 20+ times in order to get a bit of gear that enables you.................
That is the exact notion that was running through my mind when I cancelled my WoW account.
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That is the exact notion that was running through my mind when I cancelled my WoW account.
Which is the exact same reason that I haven't bothered playing for like a week, only logging on to chat with friends and stuff.
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That is the exact notion that was running through my mind when I cancelled my WoW account.
+1 .

You summed up a game in one sentence. I wouldn't have done better.

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I have never been on a real raid but have been in mass battles and in my experience everytime lots of players get together the lag starts. Also I cannot ever see the point in doing the same dungeon 20+ times in order to get a bit of gear that enables you to do another dungeon 20+ times in order to get a bit of gear that enables you.................
Unfortunately thats pretty much what we've been doing for 7 years. The basic mentality is we feel obligated to our guildmates to get them the gear they need to improve their character since they helped us to get ours. We do alot of farming but its not perpetual. We slowly phase out raids that provide older inferior gear and move onto the next raid grind.

I'd love a solution to that problem and might actually write an article on it as its close to my heart.
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I think a simple solution is just having more of an emphasis on skill as opposed to completing a cookie cutter formula of 12 healers, 4 tanks, 12 dps, etc.
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Yeah, and making some more dynamic encounters - I know some of the encounters in WoW are pseudo-dynamic, but...
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Re: Poll: Raid Size!

I suggest a solution but it is too radical for most players..

question - What level are you in real life?

You have all sorts of social status like our qualifications, jobs. items like cars and houses provide status as well.

The idea that your character starts as a weedy runt and slowly turns into a god will one day be considered an aboration. Your stats will only change a bit and then go down as well as up.

Success will be judged on your skills and social status within the game world. The whole idea of an end game will dissappear to be replaced by reputation. Role playing can return as each player can live out their fantasy (is that not what its all about anyway?)

Taking away the need to provide a continuous rise in content difficulty to cater for character leveling which slowly reduces the available game world. without levels the entire game world available to all players all the time.
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Too radical for me, at least.

I play games to do all the stuff I can't do in real life.

Mostly.
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