i give up.

[Ialiliel]

Rogues cant kill a 2 dot without trouble and clerics get more love actually they are almost a hooker for the amount of free love they get i think everyone should giveup make a cleric and change the game name to world of clericcraft.

Ialiliet 34 monk
Frerra 43 tailor
Miyzia 44 druid

[Florinda]

This, from the man who single-handedly got druids nerfed.

Quitcher whinin' and get back to your crafting station, boy!

By the way, is that an admission that even with your l33t soloing skillz you can't solo a rogue? *nudge* *nudge* *wink* *wink*

[Ialiliel]

exactly i admit they are overpowered and do not whine (like i didnt) about the tap root nerf but this is getting beyond a joke.

Ialiliet 34 monk
Frerra 43 tailor
Miyzia 44 druid

[Manganar]

My rogue has turned into a ranger with better stealth ability. Rogues need a looking at or just remove them from the game or better yet merge them into a ranger/rogue class with cleric abilities... it could happen.

[Odball-1]

Rogues are a dead class.

Everyone will abandon them anyways when Berserkers are made available for play.

Thank you for playing.

[Beldgarath]

why do you continually compare yourself to other class's. address the issues you have and ask for XXX help on XXX problem. Give them feedback on the problems. Not "oh the cleric has this and I cant do it" thats BS. Are you sure you know how to give feedback for testing purposes...

[Mardy]

Originally Posted by Ialiliel

Rogues cant kill a 2 dot without trouble and clerics get more love actually they are almost a hooker for the amount of free love they get i think everyone should giveup make a cleric and change the game name to world of clericcraft.

Ialiliet 34 monk
Frerra 43 tailor
Miyzia 44 druid

Does everything you post revolve around soloing? Are your feedbacks soley based on how fast you can get a class to lvl 50 soloing?

Anyways like the above poster said, if you want to be a tester, that's cool, but provide solid information. If you think certain classes are weak in certain areas, talk about their abilities and what can be improved on. Stop wishing for other classes to be nerfed, because it does nobody any good. It may make *you* happy, that's about it.

I'm all for boosting classes that need help. But stop talking in the form to try to nerf some classes please.

[Beldgarath]

also why are you singling out Clerics for the "free" love... Pick a class like I did "monks" in the last 10 patch notes they have had 7 mentions to the cleric's 3.... Just because they have had mentions in the last couple of patches is because thats their next class to look at I guess. Maybe you need to address this issue with your class leader.

Oh you didnt mention Monks because you have one.....Funny that hey. Shall I go count the Druid mentions in the last 10 patch's too, well look at that 5 mentions in the last 10 patches. seems you are only concerned about your class's.

[Ialiliel]

yet again these 2 pressume i play the monk so dive on the gravy train. Lol feedback you 2 must be clerics on live as its almost embarassing that you want me not to say anything at all i have a rogue a monk a druid a sK psi but its ok i have no clue about testing or feedback i leave my name my level so people can come on and see and if they have a question can ask me. Now from your reactions and the fact you dont seem to leave your testing character signature i pressume you either are A trolling our forums so you can do the "shut up you are wrong dude play your own class its not right you are wrong we need xxx " which is what you said but as of this second i have not heard you give one decent arguement FOR the changes best bel managed was to talk about his "broken" cleric all the spell lines that dont work right i believe he quoted it as 7 spells that are broken. Would you not feel it more assertive of them to fix your broken spells BEFORE throwing yet more new lines at them? Or is this a non discusion for you as thats what these boards are here for discusion so before telling me about testing and feedback these are the TEST forums for discusion on changes and thoughts the devs can read not your personal cleric forums and while quoting me when it suits i noticed you so far have not said a word about when i got my own class nerfed because of its abilities so grow up understand it needs balance not just "Im a cleric so its great" its attitudes like that that tear a game apart.

Now as for the other i pressume (terrible of me) cleric Mardy (might be mardie i wont quote your posts as i believe it childish to only take snipets that suit my arguement).You said in a post here or other thread where you and Bel are on top of that clerics need bandwagon now i have not asked for any of MY character to get more or to plead for an extra damage add because i play test to try to balance classes now i dont know if its the same on live but on test we have a small community that talk and communicate so to say this is a totally uninformed witch hunt is comical and i solo and group play and i think to take any of those single elements and use it as a reason to challenge my arguement is pathetic to be honest. You obviously solo .... so now you are going to use that as a reason that nothing can be typed against a cleric interesting so soloing in your opnion is not a good basis to argue a point well in that case nor is grouping ... or raiding later on. See the problem is herein changes to a class should fit all types of play not JUST your style therefore if you are saying well soloing yeah its a bit overpowered or grouping yeah its a bit overpowered then it needs to be corrected or looked at. The thing i believe you both are missing is if a class is playable at this moment in time would it not be more prudent to fix the truley broken classes (like a rogue) N.B. no rogue in my signature /shock maybe just maybe i like to help all classes not just your class. These are the feedback forums and in game we do bugs but without open discusion instead of just you screaming because it might get taken out if anyone complains too much now i am open to discusion hopefully Kalstan as he has posted in here as to why he believes the cleric is now overpowered (as was chatted about by him last night in the /test channel) so we can get some more points of view. See everyone has the right to that and while i respect your opinion telling me in every post that i have no view or knowledge is both insulting and presumptous. Apologies to you both if you feel insulted or agrieved by anything i wrote in the 2 threads i have posted in so far that you both replied to but this i will now discuss with test people online as nothing constructive has come of this except the additions from some of the test community (some agree some dont) other than that its become a mud slinging between you 2 (i believe live clerics) and a tester seeing the changes in action.

Ialiliet 34 monk
Frerra 43 tailor
Miyzia 44 druid

[Beldgarath]

like I said before refering to your first post "cleric love" is a load of rubbish compared to other class's. Your credibilty is shot if you are so short sighted to only look at the last 3 updates. So i will give it to you again
10 patch notes
Cleric menntioned in 3 of them
Monk mentioned in 7 of them
Druid mentioned in 5 of them.

You not I posted this thread "I give up" on false information. I should be starting a post "I give up" because of all the love monks have been getting and it would be more factual than yours.