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Old 05-16-2007, 07:53 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:55 PM   #22 (permalink)
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/me extends hands held together and cupped in front of Baby Jesus and says as smarmy and sarcastically as possible...

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I'd like to see where you read that. I've read almost every post he's made at the official SWG boards and several interviews. Never seen him admit to it once. I'm guessing Julio Torres' leaving LucasArts was due to his utter failure at the NGE debacle as well. Honestly adding back in things isn't going to make that game any better. The 'snappy movement' garbage, the over the shoulder aiming targeting reticle and the click aiming thing are all crap. Nah, that game won't get any better.
You only need to look as far as the quote and link in the initial post of this thread.
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I'd like to see where you read that. I've read almost every post he's made at the official SWG boards and several interviews. Never seen him admit to it once. I'm guessing Julio Torres' leaving LucasArts was due to his utter failure at the NGE debacle as well. Honestly adding back in things isn't going to make that game any better. The 'snappy movement' garbage, the over the shoulder aiming targeting reticle and the click aiming thing are all crap. Nah, that game won't get any better.
I think it was in his blog, he wasn't as blatant as this time. It was along the lines of "sometimes when you have to do what the company you're contracted to wants you to do, however much you think it's a bad idea" at the time, it was undeniable that it was about the NGE. And anyone who's actually spoken to an SWG dev at the time would know SOE was hoping that Obiwan would improve numbers sufficiently that they wouldn't have to put the NGE live, obviously that didn't happen and it got pushed anyways.

And whilst they may not revamp the combat again, they are at least listening to the players now and adding back in everything they want. It's got some solid design decisions behind it now, but eh.. it's not half as good as the original

Besides.. the point is, it wasn't SOE's fault, least not entirely, so saying VG will suck because of the NGE is a bit stupid.
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Call me paranoid, but does anyone else feel that maybe SOE had this planned all along?
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Meh, just when I put away my tinfoil cap.
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Call me paranoid, but does anyone else feel that maybe SOE had this planned all along?
things that make you go hmmmm....

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F13's schild interviews Brad:

Here

If anyone can't link let me know and I'll post the text, but it's a sizeable wodge.
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Of course they, SOE had this planned. Think about it. It is a win-win on sonys part. MS paid most of the money to dev the game. They get the best talent from sigil to join in on Sony, and a product that is already over the hump as far as they are concerned. Last figure I seen quoted is that there is 90k active accounts in vanguard. 90k x $15.00us=1,350,000.00 per month. The only place they have to go is up. Even if they just set the game on auto pilot like they have many others, the money will come in.
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...saying VG will suck because of the NGE is a bit stupid.
I don't think anyone has said that. What they and I have said is, 'we don't trust $OE and are extremely nervous about them running this game' They've not had a good track record with a lot of games. EQ, SWG, MxO, Planetside. They've pissed a lot of people off with extremely poor and ill advised changes to these games. Now if Smed isn't lying through his teeth and sticks by his statement about them learning their lessons with the NGE, then great. There is hope.
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