Kill the Farmers

[Drunkensot]

Ok, we need to find out who are farmers. This weekend I received a spam chat message offering me in game gold and power leveling for real cash.

So how many of the characters killing everything that moves in 3R are farmers? I realize that people might think I'm a farmer, since I'll spend two hours hunting the various spawns. But this is how I spot a farmer (based solely on WoW experience):
1. Character is on line 24-7 (different people playing the character)
2. Doesn't group, or if he does, loots out of turn, then recalls (in middle of dungeon)
3. Doesn't respect others - steals loot, spawns (ie, you kill the mob and someone runs in to loot the stash - such as a jute plant etc)
4. Won't respond to attempts at conversation

Because Order and Shadow can talk to each other, once a farmer is identified, by either group, the other group could move in and kill him.

Sound like a plan?

[tehgeek]

If you get gold farmer spam /petition as Sigil has asked.

[Ysharros]

You can also do

/report Charname

which will send the offender's name and the last 10 lines of text received to the GMs. Very handy when you get those tells with gold site adverts - just do it quickly. Shidreth has had at least a dozen of these chars banned in the last week - it may be a drop in the ocean, but I cheer every time I see a broadcast.

[Herne]

I did that last night to some muppet who spammed a power leveling service over central thestra chat...as it seems did many, many others hehe

[Sigurd]

Yes... the key here is people you must realize that this ruins a game (which the posters obviously do ;P) and spread the word to nail em as they appear.

Don't be THAT guy who uses them ;P

[Hungkung]

yeah...that's nice,

but

like anything it doesn't matter what you do to do the sellers as long as there are buyers, there will be a market. the only absolute way to get rid of gold farmers is to make sure your guildmates, friends, and YOU yourself never buy gold/items/do the stuff ya know you shouldn't do.

its that simple, no matter how tight a friendship might be, you gotta be will to sacrifice it if they cross the line. zero tolerance only works in the first person.

[Ysharros]

Oddly enough, while I'm not a huge Smed fan, this entry in the Station Blog over at SoE is very interesting.

RMT *is* here and it will stay here, because there are plenty who don't perceive it as "wrong" -- and indeed there are many uses for it that even I, a pretty strong opponent of in-game gold selling, find perfectly acceptable.

In any case I'm glad Sigil are backing their words with actions. Long may it continue.

[Bloodsword]

I SAY HANG THEM ALL!!!!!!!!

[Hungkung]

Originally Posted by Bloodsword

I SAY HANG THEM ALL!!!!!!!!

Not to start a fuss here,

but dang it, this is the problem with the whole bloody system. there is an illegal alien problem --> blame the human trafficers, there is a drug problem --> blame the drug dealers. god forbid we for once realize our hoisting the flag and shooting our guns off in the air isn't going to do much to fix the actual problem. you want to stop illegal aliens? make hiring them a capital offense...wanna stop drug running, legalize it; accept you'll lose 10-15% of your population in the first year and then the problem goes away since the hardcore user has gone to that great opium dream in the sky.

wanna stop gold farmers? yeah blame the guys doing the deed/making the top money, that will work. it always has in the past.

and in 5 years, game companies will be selling gold anyway, they are now! in the form of 'deluxe' games where you get an extra set of pixles for more $$$

again this isn't personal between us as human beings, just if you want different in the future you have to start solving problems differently. it's that simple.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Bloodsword

I SAY HANG THEM ALL!!!!!!!!

LOL! n1.

I dont know, whilst I would probably not use this service I do why people would use it *shrugs* doesnt bother me either way.

If Sigil are indeed good at cracking them down, then all this does is RISE the price of the gold, and if its a game where its gold fetches a high price then it will attract more gold farming companies who try even harder! and they get more clever

Its like any kind of security, be it house or car.. if theif wants it, he will get it! all you can do is try to deter them.

I have to say though that if game companies actually build their own system where by people can LEGITIMATLY purchase gold then it works out very well!

In EVE you are legally alowed to sell their Time cards for in-game ISK!.. which means that you can farm ISK to purchase game time, OR you can purchase game time and sell it for ISK.

Its a fantastic system which adds a great deal of depth..

so I cant say its completly a BAD idea.