Horse question

[Vlawde]

I'm a level 8 druid in Ca'el Brael (sp?) and am wondering several things. First off, is there a horse vendor in the area? And how much are horses? ( I currently have like 12 silver)
Was hoping to get the free horse, but at diplo level 35 I have run into a brick wall...can't win hardly any parleys anymore. It is harder, but I also do not really have a grasp on diplomacy yet, aside from knowing I want the marker to be on my side of the game board.

[Snowman]

er well.. I dont think you have to be 50 to get the horse!.. im sure I got my horse quests before then.

In fact im sure the horse quest.. or line of quests is what got my to 50 Dipl.

Anyway, you can find a horse trader at Tawar Galen, one will set you back about 10 silver?.. cant remember because I got a diplomacy one.

The diplomacy horse is crap anyway.. and 10s doesnt take long at all to get back.

[Vlawde]

Thanks. So the bought horse is better than the diplo quest one? And where is Tawar Galen in relation to my area? I haven't ventured out of that general area yet

[TheKnight]

About these horse quests -- are they a diplomacy quest or do certian races get them? I outright bought my horse at 9...

[Sheazy]

If I remember correctly, the diplomacy mount is 5% slower than the beginner purchased one. They have just recently changed the numbers, but the last time I looked it was 35% increase for the diplomacy mount, and 40% for the regular one.

The diplomacy quest for the horse is given at the end of the newbie diplomacy line. I think I was around diplomacy skill 40 or so when I did it. Every race has one, but you have to be adventurer or crafter level 10 to be able to accept the quest.

[Ceyllynn]

Originally Posted by Snowman

er well.. I dont think you have to be 50 to get the horse!.. im sure I got my horse quests before then.

In fact im sure the horse quest.. or line of quests is what got my to 50 Dipl.

Anyway, you can find a horse trader at Tawar Galen, one will set you back about 10 silver?.. cant remember because I got a diplomacy one.

The diplomacy horse is crap anyway.. and 10s doesnt take long at all to get back.

might want to read in the diplo forum about the diplo horses before you say they're crap....

[Sigurd]

Well... to be fair... they are STILL 'crap' atm. So he is right.

It is a harsh word, but what I think he means is the whole "risk v reward" (old Mantra of the Brad/Jerry days of EQ) is askew for the Diplo horses.

We can all agree (all races I have tried, excluding knowledge of Goblin, Orc, Gnome, Ravi) getting 12.5s by level 10 is a non-issue. If you want to have 12.5s for your horse the moment you ding... you can. In fact, you will likely have 2-3x as much as you need.

So... getting a storebought horse involves no more effort than picking the color and possibly having to travel for that color (vs the no-choice we get on Diplo horse, so it is red-only apples and M&Ms to compare those on that basis)

To get the diplo horse, you STILL need to be lvl 10 (they just changed it so can be level 100 diplo, which I propose will take you MUCH longer than hitting lvl 10 if you started xping the day you got the quest at diplo 40...) adventurer/crafter and do a long-ish ride with possibly a very hard or 2 parlay to do part one. Then a very long (for some like Derogar's Post to Three Rivers) ride in under 40 mins AND succeed at 3+ parlays, 2 of which were hardish and one easy and one hard.

I took much less time to get to 10 on 4 chars so far than the time it took to get that quest completed on 2 of my chars. And both chars were lvl 10 (required then) adventurers who could survive the aggro on the trip (both died 1 time however)

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That thread says there will be upgrades to level 2 and 3 Diplo horses. So ... one should hope so...since there are upgrades to lvl 2 and 3 bought horses, in the game now.

That thread says/infers (only because it is 'further down the line' that there will be upgrades to your horsers (not specifically including rank 1 but hope so) to make them BETTER than storebought. THAT is the key...once we see that and the difficulty in getting that - that is when we can say Diplo horses are not 'crap'

For now, compared to store bought...they are sadly still 'crap'

(My 2nd Diplo bought a horse in addition to the diplo one he had...why? because he has now 1.02g at lvl 14 ... and wth SHOULD he travel slower than the majority of players that are not diplomats )

[Ceyllynn]

okay you win on this one siggy...

yes they are crap, but that is being worked on by the looks of it.. which to me says, they're going to be worth it.

now go read my post!

[Sigurd]

"As you wish" (speaking of horses)

But I hope we aren't (*DANGER WILL ROBINSON - BAD JOKE AHEAD*) beating a dead horse here.


... I feel...dirty...and ashamed.

[Vlawde]

So you have to be level 10 to get the diplo horse...but can buy at any level, correct?