PvP Bugs...The List.

[Tybr]

Originally Posted by Elrar

Greetings!

We encourage all players to use /bug in game so that we may better address specific issues. However, if you're unable to play, or do not want to log into your account again for whatever reason please post the following information to assist us in isolating a cause and creating a solution. . The information we collect here as well as in bug reports is extremely important, we ask that you only provide the information requested in your post following the form below. Thank you for your assistance!

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Sorry Elrar~

I know you have this in the creators forum however as PvP issues are often involved and do not pertain to most of the Vanguard community I thought I might be good to also put this here. Should I be in error please feel free to delete this thread.

Just trying to help the PvP side of things.

[Tybr]

Hey Elrar~

Is there anyway we can get a more specific PvP /bug format? Most of these bugs are baised on class rather than world stuff.



How about...

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Perhaps this might work better?

[Tybr]

Issue: Pets remain un-targatable
Server Name: Tharrodon
Your Character Name: Tybr
Characters Level: 12 (When observerd for the first time.)
Suspected Bug: Pets summoned by pet classes remain untargatable.
Balance issue: The exploitable nature of this bug can not be understated. Kills can be racked up with little threat to the pet summoner.
Date: Since server open

[david99]

Issue: Dot's In PVP do NOT work
Server Name: Tharridon
Your character Name: Any
Your characters Level: 26
Suspected Bug: 80% of DOT's in PVP still DO NOT WORK. Everything appears like they are working except no damage is being done. Have tested it on my shaman and druid and confirmed it's NOT a display bug.
Balance issue: Classes that are DOT focused are now useless in PVP
Date observed: The last two weeks

Issue: Stealth doesn't work in PVP anymore
Server Name: Tharridon
Your character Name: Any
Your characters Level: 26
Suspected Bug: Even with maxed stealth skills a level 1 with no detection skill is still able to see through my stealth, and simply see's me in 'ghost' form.
Balance issue: It's broken, and completely useless in PVP now.
Date observed: 18/03/07

Issue: Targetting LAG in PVP
Server Name: Tharridon
Your character Name: Any
Your characters Level: 26
Suspected Bug: When targetting someone in PVP there is noticable 'lag' as (i assume) we pull down the stats of our target, likes buffs, level, health etc...
Balance issue: Causes large PVP fights to be very laggy and frustrating
Date observed: 18/03/07

Issue: Mez/stuns/roots
Server Name: Tharridon
Your character Name: Any
Your characters Level: 26
Suspected Bug: There is currently no diminishing returns on these abilities causing PVP fight against classes with these abilities (and there's a lot of them) to be unfair and extremely frustrating. Not to mention they can be chain cast them, and they still have 100% duration in PVP - this is not right.
Balance issue: Unbalanced and extremely frustrating
Date observed: 18/03/07

Issue: Bards group invisibility
Server Name: Tharridon
Your character Name: Any
Your characters Level: 26
Suspected Bug: Bards are able to cast group invisibility almost constantly in PVP during combat.
Balance issue: If you don't have a bard in your group and you come across a group that does, you lose. Very unbalanced and frustrating.
Date observed: 18/03/07

Issue: Losing target on them going invisible
Server Name: Tharridon
Your character Name: Any
Your characters Level: 26
Suspected Bug: When fighting someone in PVP, if they go invisible you lose your target on them and they still go invisible to you for a couple of seconds - EVEN if you are able to SEE invisibility.
Balance issue: It's not working properly and is extremely annoying.
Date observed: 18/03/07

[Tybr]

^ NICE!

Holy crapo! this is exactly what we need! Thanks David99!

[brendan]

Originally Posted by david99

Issue: Mez/stuns/roots
Server Name: Tharridon
Your character Name: Any
Your characters Level: 26
Suspected Bug: There is currently no diminishing returns on these abilities causing PVP fight against classes with these abilities (and there's a lot of them) to be unfair and extremely frustrating. Not to mention they can be chain cast them, and they still have 100% duration in PVP - this is not right.
Balance issue: Unbalanced and extremely frustrating
Date observed: 18/03/07

I don't believe this should be changed. And this coming from a Blood Mage who has no effective CC ability. CC is an important part of group PvP and it's working quite nicely right now.

Originally Posted by david99

Issue: Dot's In PVP do NOT work
Server Name: Tharridon
Your character Name: Any
Your characters Level: 26
Suspected Bug: 80% of DOT's in PVP still DO NOT WORK. Everything appears like they are working except no damage is being done. Have tested it on my shaman and druid and confirmed it's NOT a display bug.
Balance issue: Classes that are DOT focused are now useless in PVP
Date observed: The last two weeks

Blood Mage dots don't work in PvP either.

Issue: Invisibility vs Undead works vs players
Server Name: Tharridon
Your character Name: Avert
Your characters Level: 29
Suspected Bug: Invisibility vs Undead makes the cleric/necromancer invisible to other players (who are not undead). Obviously a bug.
Balance issue: Severely exploitable balance issue since a necromancer can combine this bug with the 'pets not being targettable' bug to wipe out a group that doesnt have see-invis singlehandedly with no threat to himself whatsoever.
Date observed: 20/03/07

Issue: Pets count as NPCs when fighting other players
Server Name: Tharridon
Your character Name: Avert
Your characters Level: 29
Suspected Bug: When a pet is attacking another player they count as NPCs which mean they get the mitigation and chance to hit bonuses for being higher level than other players. A level 50 necromancer can kill a level 30 player with one hit from his pet since the pet will hit for over 10,000 in many circumstances. This will most likely be combined with the pet not being targettable bug and the necromancer being invisible via invis vs undead, to make for one pain in the rear encounter.
Balance issue: Unbalanced and extremely frustrating
Date observed: 20/03/07

[Tybr]

Thanks Brendan!

[Kat_Starlish]

Originally Posted by brendan

Issue: Invisibility vs Undead works vs players
Server Name: Tharridon
Your character Name: Avert
Your characters Level: 29
Suspected Bug: Invisibility vs Undead makes the cleric/necromancer invisible to other players (who are not undead). Obviously a bug.
Balance issue: Severely exploitable balance issue since a necromancer can combine this bug with the 'pets not being targettable' bug to wipe out a group that doesnt have see-invis singlehandedly with no threat to himself whatsoever.
Date observed: 20/03/07

Took part in a Mass PvP in Southwatch on Varking this evening. Even with See-Invis on, we was unable to see the Necro that used his pet against us.

[Nightmare]

Originally Posted by brendan

I don't believe this should be changed. And this coming from a Blood Mage who has no effective CC ability. CC is an important part of group PvP and it's working quite nicely right now.

Yes, CC is an important part but it should not be the only part of PvP. Being able to hold a player completely out of combat for an infinite time is not OK. Especially when there is no effective way how to dispel, remove or counter CC (the only way to defend is to kick your group mate from group and hit him yourself and reinvite which is pretty lame strategy).



Issue: Mez/stuns
Server Name: Tharridon
Your character Name: Nightmare
Your characters Level: 44
Suspected Bug: No diminishing returns on CC abilities in PVP results in ability for CC classes to hold players out of combat for unlimited amount of time.
Balance issue: Unbalanced and extremely frustrating (I have to agree with the poster above)
Date observed: 11/04/07
Suggestion: All mezzes in PvP should only last for a max. of 50% of their duration and have random checks to break. Moreover subsequent mezzes should be even shorter and with increasing chance to be resisted. A player could only be mezzed 3 times in 2 mins.

Issue: Roots
Server Name: Tharridon
Your character Name: Nightmare
Your characters Level: 44
Suspected Bug: Not being able to turn around when rooted leaves you without a chance to fight back against an attack from behind.
Date observed: 11/04/07

Issue: Pets
Server Name: Tharridon
Your character Name: Nightmare
Your characters Level: 44
Suspected Bug: Pets still cannot be targeted (as enemy target) when they attack someone else. You cannot run from them (they kept warping to me), hit for full damage, cannot be mezzed in any way and some abilities are not working against them (like DK's Shadow Step - Harrow). Pet users can control their pets without going out of invis which is extremely frustrating.
Date observed: 11/04/07
Suggestion: Make all pets in PvP to be max. a 3 dot mob, lower their damage significantly and allow them to be mezzed. In case their damage remains the same lower their speed and increase the damage they take in PvP. All pet users should come out of invis while giving orders to their pets.

Issue: PvP damage
Server Name: Tharridon
Your character Name: Nightmare
Your characters Level: 44
Suspected Bug: PvP damage still seems to be too high - for all players. Combat should last longer.
Date observed: 11/04/07

Issue: Dots and Invis
Server Name: Tharridon
Your character Name: Nightmare
Your characters Level: 44
Suspected Bug: A player will not become visible when a dot is ticking on him.
Date observed: 11/04/07

[thlau]

Issue:Bards Invisibility Song
Server Name:Frengrot
Character Name:Chloris
Characters Level:32
Location (Chunk):South Watch Village
Date:22/04/07

Group members of the bard and the bard become invisibile every time the song starts anew (5s ?). Even for people who have a 'See invisibility' active. Ranged attacks don't prevent the target from becoming invisible again.


Issue:Necromancers Invisibility vs. Undead
Server Name:Frengrot
Character Name:Chloris
Characters Level:32
Location (Chunk):South Watch Village
Date:22/04/07

Invisibility against Undead still works against players during PvP.