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Old 03-22-2007, 09:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Group invis for everyone

Or at least those that can cast the single target right now.

As a sorc I find it rather annoying to have to drop my own invis to invis everyone else. Can we get a group version at 30(I'm not there yet 26) to alleviate my annoyance please.
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Old 03-23-2007, 04:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Group invis for everyone

That is quite annoying particularly considering that you can be invi and you get the message of wearing of and you can cast it on yourself without loosing it. When doing the same to others it drops and in a dungeon you get dead...
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Old 03-23-2007, 04:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Group invis for everyone

Yes quite.

Infact, I think invis should be a toggle, and not a spell.

Nothing should be able to knock you out of invisibility even melee combat.

Thats for the sorc only mind you.

I'm thinking a (Pick a very low number)energy per second drain toggle would work well for the higher level Sorc. That way we get constant invis, but at a cost.

Mind you your still gonna grab adds of the same creature type if they are sociable, and your kiting around with them, but as for things like dogs in the middle of field of bears your not gonna be noticed, the bears will think the dog is nuts, and ignore it all.

My next thing is gonna be more rings of varying types. Love the see invis, end breath, and as soon as I see a trainer the lev ring, But how about we get some group member targetable, or group version for allowing others the same nice ability, but without the stat mods, just straight ability. Or make the rings tradeable.

And lets talk about durability and summoned items. They are pure magic, they should have no durability at all.

EDIT:

Other than the rings issue, I was being kinda sarcastic about he invis issues. Nice to see, but I know how hard it would be to balance.

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Re: Group invis for everyone

I think a group invis would be a good thing.

I think invis not being able to be knocked off is a bad thing.

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I think a group invis would be a good thing.

I think invis not being able to be knocked off is a bad thing.

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Group invis would indeed be really cool to have and I think that it's ok to get invis knocked off if you target and NPC while your invi or even if you get too close to an NPC with much higher lvl than you. I don't think that if you are invi and casting a defensive spell should knock it off you. A rogue can stun other while invi and not loosing it, why not the sorc as defensive?
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Re: Group invis for everyone

Group invis, in my opinion, is a horrible idea. It's already being exploited on the Live servers right now. Without instancing or the Advanced Encounter System being in place, there are groups out there using group invis to snag named bosses away from other groups in dungeons. I say remove it altogether.

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Fair point. The problem is there will always be someone or some group which will exploit whatever they can.
I totally agree with you in your scenario. The problem in that case is not the group invis but rather the absolute lack of respect of those players who use it to snatch a real effort from another group and steal the boss kill (I could even go as far /petition to have them banned from the game for unfair play, but then again it might be too drastic and someone will have my head for even suggesting it ).
On the other hand if you are soloing it can help a lot to be able to get closer to the boss and kill it without dying 500x before.
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Fair point. The problem is there will always be someone or some group which will exploit whatever they can.
I totally agree with you in your scenario. The problem in that case is not the group invis but rather the absolute lack of respect of those players who use it to snatch a real effort from another group and steal the boss kill (I could even go as far /petition to have them banned from the game for unfair play, but then again it might be too drastic and someone will have my head for even suggesting it ).
On the other hand if you are soloing it can help a lot to be able to get closer to the boss and kill it without dying 500x before.
Couldn't agree with you more. It's really too bad that MMO companies have to design their games and systems to the lowest common behavioural denominator. That is why I play on Test Server.
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Couldn't agree with you more. It's really too bad that MMO companies have to design their games and systems to the lowest common behavioural denominator. That is why I play on Test Server.
so you can play with all the people who are only there for 2x exp?
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so you can play with all the people who are only there for 2x exp?
Umm....no. Generally the community on a testing server is more mature than the one live.
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