Some Beta help, please.

[slowheal]

I am not sure if this goes here or somewhere else, so forgive me if this is the wrong board.

Since I don't have access to the beta boards yet I'll ask this here just in case some Vets of beta know the answere. I am experianceing a strange bug/ event? My pc will just shut down in the game. No message no boot to the desktop. The screen goes black and then my machine shut's itself off lol. I have several games that take a ton of graphics to process and I tried all day to simulate this in several games but couldn't, thinking something in my system broke.
Shrug. Any help here would be sweet. I did not nor do I expect perfection in any game and definately not in a beta so I am not daunted or agrivated and am not looking for a topic to flame. If this is a known issue that's cool just tell me that, thanks

[FEDS-91]

Probably need more details. What are your system specs? (i.e; CPU, graphics card, vid card drivers, etc)

[Bootstrap]

Based on what I've heard, the game does not require that much in hardware resources. Which is contrary to what you have probably heard or read.

Right now the game is running for people with GForce 5 series cards.

Without any new information I would hazard a guess that you should start updating drivers. And download the current Microsoft DX9 as instructed.

[slowheal]

Yep did the dx thing.
Here's the system info
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Time of this report: 1/6/2007, 00:10:50
Machine name: OWNER-PBVEE9LUT
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: NVIDIA
System Model: AWRDACPI
BIOS: )Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.4GHz
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Page File: 330MB used, 3611MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: Radeon X1800 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: Radeon X1800 Series (0x7100)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_7100&SUBSYS_0B121002&REV_00
Display Memory: 512.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6652 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 11/21/2006 22:25:23, 261120 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 11/21/2006 22:25:08, 2829824 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-3240-11CF-4E6A-182BA1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x7100
SubSys ID: 0x0B121002
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV8_B ModeWMV8_A ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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{3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run
Thanks for the help guys

[Etrigan]

I was going to say get more RAM/open up your page file... but those seem more than fine right now, although...

I would recommend you make your pagefile static. Make it 4GB min/4GB max.

[Pirotess]

Originally Posted by slowheal

My pc will just shut down in the game. No message no boot to the desktop. The screen goes black and then my machine shut's itself off lol.

That sounds more like an overheating or PSU problem than drivers. Your processor, RAM, and video card are plenty powerful enough to run the game. How many watts is your PSU rated for and have you checked that all your fans are running and arent clogged with dust?

Moving this to Nils Nexus btw.

[Delvie]

Try updating DirectX again. Vanguard must be run on the October (or I assume later) version of DirectX. What I'm hearing sounds like a DirectX problem.

[slowheal]

Etrigen - Thanks I'll try that =)
Pirotess - Thank you, I have a 450 watt pwer supply but am runing 7 120 mm fans so maybe it's low. It's a good brand although I forget the name. I'll blow the the comp out tonight.
Games I run full bore with no or little lag prob
MT2W this one really stresses everything especially at sieges
Silent hunter 3 GWX mod- more processor strain here then graphics.
I forget my mark test scores heh but I never understand them when I use it anyway.
Delvie - Thank you, Actually after dling the beta stuff I went back to ms and redownloaded and reinstalled the only dx driver update they said was available to me. I had done this back in october but did it again just in case.

To everyone thank you for the repsonces. hugs. I will do all this and get back to you.
Note my son can play the game fine on a lot less system lol and I can hear the next suggestion before it's made haha, but he is in the middle of his bs work in programming and I would rather solo the highest raid mob in the game naked then suffer that look I got after suggesting it to him when he said, "Dad, I love you man but do you have any idea how much software I would have to reload? LOL

[FEDS-91]

Need to understand that an MMO runs differently on your system than does a regular game. MMO's rely on your components differently. To be honest your CPU has as much to do with MMO performance as your video card does, as does RAM. So make sure that you've got any patches or drivers that either Microsoft and AMD have out for your specified parts. I know when I was playing EQ2 there were issues when I got my AMD FX-60 dual core. Both Microsoft and AMD had patches that helped improve performance or fixed crashing. Honestly might see about upping your PSU though. I think Pirotess might be right. 450w with what you have giong in that system might be pulling a lot. That was another suggestion the EQ2 guys made for me.

[slowheal]

Hi folks. Again thanks for all the input. What I did was clean and dust the inside, downloaded the new game files yesterday and loged in for the test and..... played untill 6 am est! Had a blast as Dandy Dan the dwarf rogue with my son playing a cleric. Not sure what the real fix was the files or the dusting!

Feds You are correct! And you can really see my cpu struggleing under the 3 d mark 06 cpu tests LOL I average 0 fps with this single core 3800, the vid card while it may not be as good as your rig is still a good one unless runing the tests against sli or crossfire configs.

But being honest I would have to see the game runing at optimal to determine how much of a margine is really made in Vanguard with a mid tier machine juxtaposed an asualt on the walls of home pc tech, in game.

Also at this time I want to see this mid tier for at least the rest of beta to determine how many WoW players might bleed over to make this title a market success.
While I can pick up the phone and make an order from alienware or Falcon nw or Voodoo or some other "Boutique" vendor, Most gamers (16 to 22) can't.

Thought for the day regarding this general topic, WoW has 6 million subscriptions!!! That is HUGE. And how can we best get them to Vanguard ?
Word of mouth to the guilds I play in and my brother plays in and I already know most play that on mid tier machines.
What did happen last night even with the things they are working on to stabilize the game was this; I fell in love with Vanguards system, with mr M's vision.

Thank you all so much for your help. All of it good and all of it reflected a genuine desire to help one more person get into the game.
Hugs