Why even have a test server?

[Piala]

Does Sigil have a test server for PR purposes only? I give the case of todays patch.
Patch 1818a was put on test Tues 8/24 and available for testing at about 1400 PDT. At the same time this was put on test, the message was put on VGPlayers that there would be a patch at 0600 PDT on 8/25. This gave the testers a total of 16 hours to test the content of 1818a before it went live. That is not enough time. Are you that desparate for patches that you dont want it player tested? We may be a small community, but we try to be thorough. If you keep this up, the only players on test will soon be only the ones that go there to see what the new content is and not care whether it works or not.

PLEASE GIVE US TIME TO TEST CHANGES!!!!

Thank you.

[Galahad]

is it the same patch? last i checked, live is about 9 patches behind test.

[Elfiwolfe]

Originally Posted by Galahad

is it the same patch? last i checked, live is about 9 patches behind test.

Live is now at 1818.

[Galahad]

dang, so when i go home tonight all of my stuff is going to be boe? that sux. i like the reason behind it, but there were so many things that i wanted to see fixed with it (like more soulbound adventured items) before it went live. oh well, i will still love my crafters, besides, i usually only make stuff for free for myself or guildies so it won't affect my income any.

[Elfiwolfe]

there is only a few diplomats on the test server.. and many times a diplomacy update hits on tuesday.. but before we get done testing them they are already up on live and people yelling at the bugs.
Could they grab the info for the wednsday's patch on monday morning? That way we have at least 2-7 days to test any content?

[Piala]

Originally Posted by Galahad

is it the same patch? last i checked, live is about 9 patches behind test.

Yes it is. All the continental stle changes that went in on 1818a were pushed to live 16 hours later. No time for feedback on changes. Even if we had /bugged them, they would be live before any dev had a chance to read bug report.

Originally Posted by Elfiwolfe

there is only a few diplomats on the test server.. and many times a diplomacy update hits on tuesday.. but before we get done testing them they are already up on live and people yelling at the bugs.
Could they grab the info for the wednsday's patch on monday morning? That way we have at least 2-7 days to test any content?

My point exactly. THANK YOU

[Cendari]

Originally Posted by Piala

Does Sigil have a test server for PR purposes only? I give the case of todays patch.
Patch 1818a was put on test Tues 8/24 and available for testing at about 1400 PDT. At the same time this was put on test, the message was put on VGPlayers that there would be a patch at 0600 PDT on 8/25. This gave the testers a total of 16 hours to test the content of 1818a before it went live. That is not enough time. Are you that desparate for patches that you dont want it player tested? We may be a small community, but we try to be thorough. If you keep this up, the only players on test will soon be only the ones that go there to see what the new content is and not care whether it works or not.

PLEASE GIVE US TIME TO TEST CHANGES!!!!

Thank you.

Well thats not good if the attitude over at SOE is "hurry up and bandage" and nothing thorough gets done prior to going live. We need this game to live and attract customers, not scare them away. Currently I have had a change of attitude, at first due to the takeover I wasn't going to subscribe at all, but since I have gotten over my anger about the whole thing, I have this to say.
Those of us who still want this beautiful game to succeed, should be putting our money where our mouthes are and spending a little time on Test helping out.
I know that doesn't appeal to some..and I can understand why.

Lets not drop the ball..as Microsoft did..and eventually..unfortunately Sigil did. I feel for the Sigil employees...but lets see if we can do a little something ourselves.
I have several characters on test, some who do craft, diplo and adventure. Will be restarting my sub soon.

Hope there are others out there like me that have reconsidered (for now!).

If Soe isn't willing to give time for the bug reports and testing to get done on patches due to go live..then I think they are cutting off their noses to spite their faces.

Come on Soe.....lets see some changes in attitude here...please?

In the long run if care IS taken to get this game up to snuff...then you will see the monetary rewards you are after.............

Cendari

[Naiya]

the OP is over a month old - I'm not sure how fast the updates are pushed from test to live since SOE took over.

if someone is knowledgeable oh now the other SOE games push updates that might be more indicative on how SOE plans on handling this one

[Vilaseth]

Originally Posted by Cendari

Well thats not good if the attitude over at SOE is "hurry up and bandage" and nothing thorough gets done prior to going live.
Cendari

They(SOE) are going to end up "patching patches" just like they do or did with EverQuest.

[Vyviel]

Originally Posted by Naiya

the OP is over a month old - I'm not sure how fast the updates are pushed from test to live since SOE took over.

if someone is knowledgeable oh now the other SOE games push updates that might be more indicative on how SOE plans on handling this one

On EQ2 Test, we generally get from 1-3 weeks testing each update, depending on the extent of the new content/changes being done that time around. On more major game updates, QA is generally very active with the Test community, taking notes and major bug reports via our /test channel, among other avenues.

The one time in my memory that there was a rapid push to live, such as what started this thread, we on EQ2 Test sounded much like you all are here. "How can we test stuff if you push it live so fast!?!", etc. But, as I said, that was once in my memory, and I've been on EQ2 Test full time for well over a year now.

Not all bugs we report get fixed before things go live. But most got reported. They (the devs) prioritize how they have to, I suppose, but generally the big ones get caught and fixed before going live. That's about all you can do as testers - keep your eyes open, file the /bugs, and hope the devs can keep up with fixing what you all find as best they can.