Nexus of Hatred Broken?

[Axamander]

It seems to aggro the mob i have targeted onto me however fails to do anything to the toehr mobs in combat. Really is disappoointing when in aoe groups as i have watched more than one sorc eat dirt and it makes me impotent when my healbot brother pulls all the adds on a bad pull.

Am I doing anything wrong or is it just broken since they made it not affact mobs not in combat?

[velzevul]

this has been broken forever and nothing has been done.

I can even tell you how it is broken, in 4 simple steps.

Object Oriented Programming 101 -

1) they had regular rescue
2) they needed multiple mob rescue
2.1) what to do?
2.2) simple, you cycle through every mob that is attacking PC on defensive target, and you use your rescue from (1) on every one of them.
3 - THE BIG SCREWUP A) they forgot to change the requirement that rescue from (1) inherited from single target rescue - that is requirement to target a mob that you using rescue on. Therefore only the mob you target gets turned on you. Rescue from step (1) naturally fails on all other mobs, because you are not targeting them in offensive target, as it should fail.
3 - THE BIG SCREWUP B) they forgot to change number of combat cycles in simple rescue in (1), mobs do not turn to you for 4-8 attacks, they still only turn for 2 attacks.
4 - THE BIGGER PICTURE) DRK end up with a retarded AOE taunt that requires someone effectively eating dirt already to even be initialized, while wars got a preemptive aoe taunt that does +hate, and significant dmg in aoe range.

[Valamir]

Originally Posted by Axamander

It seems to aggro the mob i have targeted onto me however fails to do anything to the toehr mobs in combat. Really is disappoointing when in aoe groups as i have watched more than one sorc eat dirt and it makes me impotent when my healbot brother pulls all the adds on a bad pull.

Am I doing anything wrong or is it just broken since they made it not affact mobs not in combat?

keep in mind that this is still a rescue on your defensive target and not a skill that force mobs around you to attack yourself

probably what is happening to you is that the other mobs are attacking other people in your group and is for this reason that you rescue only the mob you target on its current target

actually to use it effectively you don't need to switch targets for example let's say that you are tanking 2 mobs, 1 is on you the other aggro an healer, you don't need to select that mob, just put the healer as your defensive target and fire your nexus if mob will not resist it (:P) then you will get it on you.

also note that in a situation with "dancing" aggro it could be very difficult to use rescues (expecially this one) effectively as a moment the mob can be on a group member but when you fire the rescue it cuold have alredy switched to another one making your rescue useless.

[DrK]

Originally Posted by Valamir

keep in mind that this is still a rescue on your defensive target and not a skill that force mobs around you to attack yourself

probably what is happening to you is that the other mobs are attacking other people in your group and is for this reason that you rescue only the mob you target on its current target

actually to use it effectively you don't need to switch targets for example let's say that you are tanking 2 mobs, 1 is on you the other aggro an healer, you don't need to select that mob, just put the healer as your defensive target and fire your nexus if mob will not resist it (:P) then you will get it on you.

also note that in a situation with "dancing" aggro it could be very difficult to use rescues (expecially this one) effectively as a moment the mob can be on a group member but when you fire the rescue it cuold have alredy switched to another one making your rescue useless.

That's all well and good but the ability is actually broken.

It does not work as an ae rescue.

[Valamir]

Originally Posted by DrK

That's all well and good but the ability is actually broken.

It does not work as an ae rescue.

to me it works pretty well

[Vladamier]

This ability used to be completely broken. With the latest patch I would say it works 50% of the time.

[Axamander]

Sorry I am not buying this it works 50% of the time nonsense. Your acting like i have no idea how to play. Im very fluent in managing aggro amongst several targets having played a bruiser in EQ2 however that is not cogent to the issue at hand.

I was AOEing bloodhowlers in wardship with only my brother, a bloodmage. He hits his aoe and all4 to 5 mobs start going after him. As he is very squishy it is very disconcerting. I have tried nexus hundreds of times and only the mob that I am targeting actually comest o me so i cylle through the mobs using scourge, seeting and torture and am able to pick them up.

This 50% of the time thing is nonsense. I hvave gootten feedback from Xaices indicating that the code is not updated to aoe anymore and only effects your targeted mob. If you hit nexus and are targeting a mob that is attacking you you get the 'your target is dead' message.

Discussion is all well and good but i dont like false inormation being presented. This notion that it works sometime or that I am doing something wrong by switching targets is plain nonsense.

Bottomline: Nexus of Hatred is confirmed to be broken.

[Valamir]

Originally Posted by Axamander

This 50% of the time thing is nonsense. I hvave gootten feedback from Xaices indicating that the code is not updated to aoe anymore and only effects your targeted mob. If you hit nexus and are targeting a mob that is attacking you you get the 'your target is dead' message.

Discussion is all well and good but i dont like false inormation being presented. This notion that it works sometime or that I am doing something wrong by switching targets is plain nonsense.

Bottomline: Nexus of Hatred is confirmed to be broken.

this is not true too, i use it while "offtanking" in RI and works as aoe on target i have not selected, used that many many times so i'm pretty sure it works as aoe here the usual situation

me offtanking boss while group kill the 2 adds, pet/other tank lose aggro on one of the adds that go on an healer and i, keeping the boss as target, select the healer begin attacked and fire nexus... attacking mob turn on me and start attack.

generally i don't use it in a situation with more than 2 mobs to rescue so can't say if it works well with 3+ mobs, but with 1-2 mobs to rescue i have no problems with this skills

[Avangarok]

Then you are a lucky one because myself and other DKs Ive talked to on Gelenia all report this skill acting like a single target rescue. more power to you I guess.

[imported_Judas]

This ability is broken.

Avan if you and your brother were testing the ability fine, but if your pulling 5 mobs and he AE's them Quite simply hes going to die. Even if you AE rescued him by the time you taunted and gained agro on 5 mobs they would probably be back on him after the rescue wears off.

The worst agro problems come from premature AE's and Group heals on multiple mob pulls. Even when I hold my group back and get taunts on every mob agro is sometimes lost due to these spells.