Symbole, what you favorite?

[Tborg]

Hello, i was wondering what is your favorite symbole and why.

Symbol of Suffering: Damage shield.

Symbol of Despair: Self rune. Absorbs X damage every 5s. Also has a X% chance (increases with DC) of stunning the attacker for 3s.

At my lev, 24, i got 12% (half your lev %) chance to stun for 3 sec with SoD and it reduce 60 dmg every 5 sec btw (so its like 2.5 dmg reduction/lvl).

I know there must have some mob that have stun immunitie, mostly boss and special encounter. What i want to know is what is the best selection depending situation, like if you solo or if you group as main tank. If you only secondary tank or dps, its not as important i guest.

Thanks you for your advise.

Tborg 24 DrK.

[Vladamier]

I would say I have rune of despair on 90% of the time. You just can't beat having X amount of dmg reduced every 5 seconds. When I solo 4 dots my fights will last for minutes. I sometimes have 100 points of dmg reduced every 5 seconds so do the math and it comes out to alot. Every last HP counts and being able to reduce dmg into the thousands is what makes me prevail at the end of the battle.

I'll use symbal of Suffering if I'm grinding/slaughtering very low level mobs cause its funny to see them wack themselves to death :P

Our last rune, don't even get me started. Its a joke. Only absolute time I would use it is if I'm just a pure DPS class in group.

[DrK]

Despair is the only really useful one.


Suffering is pretty much only good for a laugh when fighting a bunch of low level grey con mobs so you can watch them kill themselves on you. It does far too little damage to be of any use against anything remotely your level.



Symbol oF Wrath is a downright insult, it's pathetic and half the time it doesn't even work.

It needs to be fixed so that it actually works 100% of the time and it needs to have its effects increased by a fairly large margin for it to become useful.

[Meldryn]

I'm with Drk on this one. Despair is the only symbol worth using.

[Lusain]

I use despair at all times EXCEPT when I am AEing.

For instance, I've been farming for Xennu shards lately (blue 3dots) and I pull 3 mobs per pull and kill them all. In defensive, I can keep myself healed without despair on a 3-pull and the mobs die considerably faster with the DS up than with despair up, so I do that.

Most of the time, Despair, though. But the DS does have its moments.

I use the other symbol (the +damage one) if I were going to be killing mobs that cant really hurt me (say lowbie faction grinding).

[alansirhc]

I tend to use despair when AEing too. Then again, im a little more crazy than you, and don't stop with 3.

If I have less than 6 2dot mobs, im being careful. I go back and forth between the two, depending on how badly im getting hurt, and whether I can survive without stuns going off.

[xythalia]

Ehh, I use despair when I solo / duo.

In a group it is almost always wrath. When I am aoeing it is ALWAYS wrath. With EB and Wrath my SoD breaks 1k, and I usually pull at the very least 10-12 mobs. At DC5 wrath adds well over 100 damage to SoD, and for 10 mobs do the math.

Wrath makes your dc go up quite a bit faster - 3 DV and its up to 3 even if you never hit the mob... much more important when you can't even get to dc4 because your group destroys the mobs then 100 hp / 5 is.

The only time I used suffering was when it was our only Symbol, until level 22 or something.

The damage shield one is pathetic, if I want a damage shield i'll ask a bmg for their 110 damage one.

edit: and Symbol of Wrath ALWAYS works for me, at dc1-3 its not very noticeable except with SoD , at dc5 you can't miss it.

[Tborg]

Thanks you for you advise, you all been very nice to taken the time to explain the dynamic of the symbole.

Have a good day all =D

[Lusain]

Originally Posted by alansirhc

I tend to use despair when AEing too. Then again, im a little more crazy than you, and don't stop with 3.

If I have less than 6 2dot mobs, im being careful. I go back and forth between the two, depending on how badly im getting hurt, and whether I can survive without stuns going off.

/shrug

I'm talking about 3dots and I stop with my limit. Four kills me, three doesn't. Why would I pull four? Perhaps when I ding to 41 (ever so close) I'll try a fourth one and see if the extra level helps.

Xythalia, could you explain this:
faster - 3 DV and its up to 3 even if you never hit the mob...

I'm very confused. Thanks.

[xythalia]

Originally Posted by Lusain

/shrug

I'm talking about 3dots and I stop with my limit. Four kills me, three doesn't. Why would I pull four? Perhaps when I ding to 41 (ever so close) I'll try a fourth one and see if the extra level helps.

Xythalia, could you explain this:
faster - 3 DV and its up to 3 even if you never hit the mob...

I'm very confused. Thanks.

I just said with Wrath on, if you cast Dreadful Visage 3 times you already have dc 3... and thats like 6 seconds of time? not a bad way to start off in a group, since you can do it when you run out of end from you 5 vexing strikes while you regen back end or whatever.

Dreadful Visage is that +DC spell that I've never seen anyone else use, that everyone seems to say sucks, if you've never used it.

and edit: 3 dots hit much harder then 2 dots, so I'd think you would be dancing with death if you pulled 6+ 3 dots :wink:

when I aoe I usually pull 1, use DV to get dc 5 on it, and then go for my huge pull of mobs. or if they are all aggro i just keep the first one targeted while using DV and body aggro the other ones I want.