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Old 04-11-2007, 03:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
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5% to hit, increased accuracy
5% to Evade
5% to Block
5% to Parry
Adds ?% to Resists
Adds Chance on hit to raise DC
Are they going to readjust our defensive form as well then? 5% evasion, 5% block, 5% parry and 5% to hit would make it a better tanking form than AoD.

Is the 5% to hit capped at 95% like it is in other games? No matter what your to-hit is you will always have a 5% chance to miss? So it is only effective on higher level mobs in its current form?
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Old 04-11-2007, 03:48 PM   #12 (permalink)
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And how are you seeing the exact buff that Shield of Fear is applying? I was trying to test it this morning but I couldn't find that it ever raised my Block % as reported by my Defense skill, and the buff itself always just says "1% block per level of DC".
If you hover over your defense on your adventuring character tab, it lists your block and parry there, as your DC increases those numbers will increase.
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:03 PM   #13 (permalink)
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And how are you seeing the exact buff that Shield of Fear is applying? I was trying to test it this morning but I couldn't find that it ever raised my Block % as reported by my Defense skill, and the buff itself always just says "1% block per level of DC".
If you hover over your defense on your adventuring character tab, it lists your block and parry there, as your DC increases those numbers will increase.
Yeah that's what I was doing but mine was not going up... maybe it's kuz I'm using DroxUI, I wonder if it's doing something different with it.
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Old 04-11-2007, 06:10 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Hmm...

500% reduction on our base defensive effect from the stance (5% down to 1%, changed from dodge to block) is really significant.

I was certainly shocked to see that, especially since it went in there without any notes whatsoever.

- Dread Knight – Shadow Meld now increases Block instead of dodge.

Was the nerf from 5% to 1% a mistake?

The spell resist and DC increase would be nice, but the primary components (Accuracy and Block) really need to start at 5% and upgrade from there to make it worthwhile.
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:13 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Hmm...

500% reduction on our base defensive effect from the stance (5% down to 1%, changed from dodge to block) is really significant.

I was certainly shocked to see that, especially since it went in there without any notes whatsoever.

- Dread Knight – Shadow Meld now increases Block instead of dodge.

Was the nerf from 5% to 1% a mistake?

The spell resist and DC increase would be nice, but the primary components (Accuracy and Block) really need to start at 5% and upgrade from there to make it worthwhile.
a 500% reduction would mean shadow meld was actually lowering our evasion to -20%. going from 5% to 1% is an 80% reduction, not 500%. not trying to be an ass, but stating things like a 500% nerf on multiple VG boards is going to be seen as extreme over exagerating.

the evasion we actually got from the old SM: 5-10%

the evasion we're currently getting from the new SM: 2-12%

what i think the devs meant to do: 10-20%
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:48 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Wow...

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going from 5% to 1% is an 80% reduction, not 500%. not trying to be an ass...

Thanks for jumping in and registering today to point out my math error! I suck at that; glad you fixed it!

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what i think the devs meant to do: 10-20%
I certainly hope so!!
I appreciate you helping me out. Glad you're here and active!
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:57 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Thanks for jumping in and registering today to point out my math error. April 11th; thank gawd you came here to fix this!!


5% to 1% then; leave out the calculations. 5 times out of 100 to once. Thanks for helping me out. I swear some of these guys sneak in from the War and Pally boards just to throw up smoke.
i've been posting on the silky venom forums since 9/05 and have been posting on the old sigil forums since the 2nd day they were opened (before vanguard even had a name). unfortuneately, our class lead only posts on these boards now, and i'm tired of the silkyvenom forums being full of whining warrior posts. the reason i registered today is because this was the biggest patch day for DKs since the game went live, not to honor you by pointing out your math errors.

do you really want DKs going around posting things like "500% nerf! across multiple VG boards and garnering us the same label of whiners and crybabies that warriors have? when's the last time you've gone to a sale and seen signs that say over 100%+ off the price? never, cuz that'd be 0 or sub 0.
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:02 AM   #18 (permalink)
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if we're done comparing e-peens, maybe we can move on now?
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Old 04-12-2007, 03:56 AM   #19 (permalink)
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You win! Thank goodness you're finally here. Now get busy, lol! /cheer
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