need to fix the tank agro!

Thrawn_Fearweaver · 02-07-2007, 11:22 PM

I'm currently a lvl 28 Dread Knight on Florindyl server and and in a pretty good static group, one sad thing.... i cant get agro! taunt doesnt work for nadda and nexus of hatred doesnt work either . i mean seriously my group will let test out a few things and this is what i came up with. i will pull a mob and no one in my group will attack until i give them the ok. i will start off with my provoke III then malice then provoke again then vexing strike IV 2 times until provoke comes back from back from refreshes . use provoke again then malice agian and provoke once more. then i give the ok and my monk friend comes and uses auto-attack and pulls agro right off me!!!!! what the hell. use my rescuse it turns hits me once then turns back to the monk, my whole group will attack and and all of them will get agro over me and mind you im taunting the whole time. i feel completly useless i mean seriously what is the point in being the "tank" if im not tanking anything. once in a bluemoon ill get agro and keep it for a little bit but it doesnt take longer to pull it off of me. if there is anything im doing wrong please let me know but from what i can tell and my group can tell im doing all i can and im just not getting the agro control that i should be. until its fix me and all tanks seem to be pointless. post if you feel im doing anything wrong.

Thrawn Fearweaver (Halcyon Affinity)
level 28 Dread Knight

Hyatt · 02-08-2007, 09:26 AM

I'm level 24 at the moment, and this is what works for me:

1. Let bard lull any adds, get CC ready incase of resist.

2. Dark Ward on if it's up, pull with Devour Strength and stick Torture on.

3. Immediately hit Malice - Vexing - Provoke.

4. Hit Vexing/SS-Harrow in between auto-attacks/endurance ticks. Malice, Torture and Provoke as soon as their timers are up.

If I have multiple adds, I will try and Torture each one, dividing about 60% of my attention on the target being DPSed, and occasionally hitting the other target(s).

The only time this doesn't work is if the mobs or my party has 2+ levels on me. Then it's an upward struggle.

TeamSKKeris · 02-08-2007, 11:06 AM

Level 22 here. Never had trouble with aggro unless group members were 2+ levels higher than me. Even then I can get aggro if I fight for it.

Make sure you have a way to immediately chain Incite finishing line after any critical hit. This is much more important than casting Wrack-Ruin line. If I get lucky and hit an early crit and get incite off, I have never had anyone take a mob off me.

Some people may have the impression that I am slack for doing this but my main hotkey looks like:

Code:

/reactionautocounter
/cast "Incite"
/reactionautochain
/cast "Provoke"
/cast "Malice"
/cast "Vexing Strike"

Also, don't pull with anything but Torture. Personally I let other people pull and I stick torture on it as it comes towards camp. It gives you the head start on aggro you will need.

Implosion · 02-08-2007, 11:36 AM

Torture is the single biggest agro gain we have.

Also, I don't use Provoke unless I'm out of Endurance, as the hate listed on the tooltip is less than my Vexing Strikes hit for. Therefore, I prefer to use my global cooldown for Vexing Strike.

I haven't had any trouble with agro since they patched it, and only had moderate trouble before. (Healers would usually out agro my torture, if we had more than 2 un-CC'd mobs. I don't really see that as a balance issue, as much as a reasonable limitation though.)

TeamSKKeris · 02-08-2007, 01:19 PM

Provoke is not on the global cooldown.

Shisui · 02-08-2007, 02:02 PM

I am a level 24 Dread Knight, and after the patch that increased our aggro creation with our hits, I had no problem at all keeping the monsters at me.

I don't know if its only me, but actually, I don't even use Provoke. Heck, I've never got a monster with that; I make the monsters come to me via the good and ol' damage. I normally hunt with a Bard, a Psionicist, a Disciple, a Paladin and a Sorcerer, and I can keep the aggro most of the time (when the monster isnt attacking me, its attacking the Paladin)

Rescue + Torture + Malice normally works fine, Harrow can help too, if you are behind. I don't find Provoke useful at all... maybe in the next few levels I may use it, but I doubt it.

Thrawn_Fearweaver · 02-08-2007, 03:37 PM

yeah after this latest patch i can get and keep aggro alot better now. and the +2 lvls maybe be my problem. 2 of my static group members are 2-3 lvl higher then me cuase i have more of a life then them jk but they do have more playing time then i do. and i do pull with torture , thanks all for your replys and if you have anymore if plz do tell