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View Poll Results: Do you believe in magick?
Yes, I believe it's a integral part of the world. 32 55.17%
No, I believe it's nothing but lights and shadows. 16 27.59%
I'm not sure how i feel about it. 6 10.34%
Could care less... 4 6.90%
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Old 08-23-2006, 03:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Real Magick?

Just curious as to how many people who are into these type of games believe in real magick, and i don't mean the magic you see people perform in public or at shows, but the magick that involves auras and energies from people and the world around?
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Old 08-23-2006, 05:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Real Magick?

Interesting question. Personally I dont believe in it. I would like to but since I've never experienced it in any fashion in the real world, I cant believe in it.
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Old 08-23-2006, 08:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Real Magick?

Pff. Hocus pocus and nothingness if you ask me.

That's not to say that things happen that science cannot yet explain adequately. Yet I still don't believe that magic occurs.

Rather, I think it is a mere intepretation of events. The human mind is amazing and can come up with some extraordinary things now and then. But the human mind is also wrong about a lot of things. We can't properly visualize quantum events or galactic phenomena, and as such are likely to interpret them in a way that seems magical. Like Thor's hammer causing lighting, or God healing people through prayer.

So I voted no.
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Old 08-23-2006, 08:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Real Magick?

I myself believe in magick which is why i started this poll and thread. And you certianly are intitled to your own opinions, but i just wanted to say that their is a difference between "magic" and "magick". The former used to be correct(provided you do believe in it, otherwise they could just as well both mean the same thing), till it was overused by people who were doing nothing more then parlor tricks, so it was then changed to the latter, to separate it from such childness in comparison. Of course everyone who does believe in it may very well vary in beliefs. Take the meaning as you will, but the magick i believe in isn't the type you see in movies or stories, where they shoot lightning or fireballs(but who knows); but a more passive kind, such as blessings or even curses so to speak.

And of course i appreciate your opinion since i asked for it.
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Re: Real Magick?

there are things that happen every day in our common lives that would totally freak out a person say from the center of africa. Just pushing a button and a light comes on - WOW !!

That would be magic to him. So no - there is no magic beyond the movie studio special effects stage set.
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Re: Real Magick?

My opinion is a bit complex and is sort of what my personal belief system revolves around, but I don't want to preach or really go much into it. In our scientific society where nearly everything has an explanation, those things that still remain unexplainable are some sort of 'magic' to me - although I wouldn't personally use that term to describe it. Things like inspiration, art, the subconscious' meanderings while we sleep, or just creating something from nothing in the most basic terms. It's that unknown wellspring of creativity that sort of drives us along which we can't explain in technical terms, nor do I think we ever can. And so that becomes a solid belief for me to fall back on.
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Old 08-24-2006, 06:00 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Real Magick?

Magic is stuff we dont understand. Most of our Technology would be described as magic a few hundred years ago. What we cannot understand we create mystic answers for so we can sleep at night. Without my brain to detect it time has no meaning. Therefore in death we are less than a microsecond away from the end of the universe, that is why we need magic.
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Re: Real Magick?

I don't believe in magic, the paranormal, or the spiritual.
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Re: Real Magick?

Hmmm... I'm not sure how to respond to this. Is there magik? Don't know. Have I ever witnessed any? Not to my knowledge.

However I have witnessed a paranormal event or two.

The big one happend in 1999 while I was on fire watch/guard duty out in the filed while stationed at Ft. Lewis. It was after midnight and before true dawn. I do not remeber the exact time. I'd been up walking the parimiter of our camp for about 40 minutes. I Was completly awake so it wasnt some sort of waking dream. Anyways some of the training areas are not that far from the hardball (asphalt) roads that criss and cross the post. I hear a thump, thump, thump, And I thought it was a car on a nearby road with their base kicked up way to high. But as I turn towords the noise and piered thru the mist ( Yes there was wisps of mist, not full blown fog but just wisps) I relized it wasn't a car. Running down the trail were 5 native americans running to the beat of a drum. I couldn't see the drum player though. They were not compleatly visable, Actually the only parts I could see were the ones overlapping the mists. There was enough mist however to clearly define the spirits I was seeing. None of them turned to look at me. In fact they acted as if I wasnt there. Where they reall ghoasts that had once been dead? Or just aglimps into the past I couldnt tell you but it wasnt normal. Since then I'v had an open mind about most things.

So do I believe in Magik? Lets just say this. I don't disbelieve in it.

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Old 08-25-2006, 12:24 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Real Magick?

There is more to world than we can explain things have happened thruout time which can't be explained. Do I believe in "Magick" I would love to believe it's true, so I won't say I don't. It's something to me much like heaven and hell for me I want to believe it's real just like I want to believe there is a place for good souls to go when they die. Have I ever experienced it no but I believe a man could live a thousand years and never experience ten percent of what this world has to offer, so I shall not be the first disbelieve what most have experienced. Then again Gares, Mr. Aleister Crowley could have been the greatest illusionist of our time, who knows. Jumping into the world of Wicca won't explain it tho you see if you had read further that realm Gares, you would see that nobody else has been able to achieve what Mr. Crowley had supposedly.
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