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Old 05-08-2006, 10:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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SOE and Vanguard: Whats YOUR take?

So what do you all think about the new partnership between SOE and Sigil?
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Old 05-08-2006, 12:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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/ponder

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Will there be a Vanguard Station EXchange where people buy and sell goods for real world cash?

Please say no...
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Absolutely NOT. Vanguard will NOT be part of Station Exchange as you describe above.

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"as you describe above" means to me that they will be part of station exchange. . .
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Old 05-08-2006, 01:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: SOE and Vanguard: Whats YOUR take?

I have faith. If Sigil thinks that this is a better deal for them, I believe it.

People act like this is the end of the road for Vanguard, but I don't understand why. I've played EQ, PS and SWG. The service was actually better than what I experienced with WoW. I don't deny that people have had troubles with SOE in the past, but perhaps they are simply holding grudges against a company that was rather inexperienced in MMOs at the time? I'm sure most of these complaints date back many years, when EQ was still relatively new.
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Re: SOE and Vanguard: Whats YOUR take?

I personally think that this is more than a little scary based on one reason. Look at the support (or lack there of) of the current stable of SOE games. The Matrix Online is so buggy, it's practically unplayable, and I won't rehash the well documented Star Wars problems. The support is not there for SWG and TMO; so much so that's it's actually appalling. I sincerely hope that Sigil will push to have a high level of accountability from Sony, or new subscribers could get turned off just by the process of being brought on board SOE.
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Old 05-08-2006, 03:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: /ponder

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Will there be a Vanguard Station EXchange where people buy and sell goods for real world cash?

Please say no...
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Absolutely NOT. Vanguard will NOT be part of Station Exchange as you describe above.

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"as you describe above" means to me that they will be part of station exchange. . .
Merged this with the existing thread about Vanguard & SOE.

And no, Brad is adamant that Exchange will never happen with Vanguard. He is not one to mince words, so I wouldn't assume there's some hidden meaning.
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Old 05-09-2006, 01:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: SOE and Vanguard: Whats YOUR take?

Another misnomer is that grudges held against SoE are from years ago. This isn't so!

Most of the real issues started about 3 years ago, I'd guess. That was after SoE was firmly in control and Varant was long gone. For a while, they had decent ingame support, but as of a bit over a year (maybe 2 now...time flies) ago or so, that vanished, as well. Other than that, it's all been discussed, really.

The more recent Exchange is a biggie, but I'm not concerned about Sigil participating. The only concern there I might have would be the thought of any partnership lending credence to the actions of SoE.

Actually, if I had one major, off-the-wall hope for this, it would be that Smed and crew actually sees the animosity people actually feel about SoE and what they've done and chose to rethink their positions and do the right thing for their games and client base. Trust factor is down the tubes. It has to be earned back, and sometimes, that takes a bit of humble pie!

But then, this is one, little branch of Sony...
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Re: SOE and Vanguard: Whats YOUR take?

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I personally think that this is more than a little scary based on one reason. Look at the support (or lack there of) of the current stable of SOE games. The Matrix Online is so buggy, it's practically unplayable, and I won't rehash the well documented Star Wars problems. The support is not there for SWG and TMO; so much so that's it's actually appalling. I sincerely hope that Sigil will push to have a high level of accountability from Sony, or new subscribers could get turned off just by the process of being brought on board SOE.
But lets keep it in perspective. SOE is only responsible for technical support not ingame or QA. Thats in Sigils court still which would be addressing bugs. The only kind of support SOE will be doing is if your PC is crashing or CDs are scratched.
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Re: SOE and Vanguard: Whats YOUR take?

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Trust factor is down the tubes. It has to be earned back, and sometimes, that takes a bit of humble pie!
to my knowledge SOE is alergic to humble pie and any similarly flavoured goods, baked or otherwise.

as for my take on the partnership... i had my concerns about M$, so i'm still just waiting to see how things work out. on the plus side, meas if i wanted to i could continue playing eq2 once vanguard is out... if they add it to station access.
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Old 05-10-2006, 09:30 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: SOE and Vanguard: Whats YOUR take?

It's being added to the Station Access Pass thingy.

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Re: SOE and Vanguard: Whats YOUR take?

Meh I still play EQ2, and aside from them avoiding fixing known bugs, they do alright. They have the hardware to support Vanguard and the advertising dollars to get this product where they need/want it to be.
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