harvesting problem.. any ideas?

[Ceyllynn]

okay i'm an outfitter, so i geared my harvesting towards that.. aka Skinning and Reaping, and in that order. since these are what i know i will use them as the examples... so bear with me please.

in-game chat, there seems to be some confusion as to the tiers:

online- novice, amature, apprentice, initiate, and journeyman

in-game- novice, initiate, amature ... etc

can someone please clarify? cause i know my gathered items are listed as amature after 100.

-advancement books:

i am the think ahead type, so i bought all the books at once(plus they weren't that expensive):

now my reaping is at 105(now down to 102) and my skinning is at 190 something, harvesting 215 something. when can i use these books? i could use the amature one for reaping right after i hit 100, but cannot use the skinning one... reaping is completely stuck after using the book, over 40 bales of cotton to date and nada, even tried the harvester guy to redo it.. nada again... GMs say they cannot help and the tech forums aren't working *sighs*

-how to raise your skills:

how do you judge what level animals/creature are worth skinning to raise levels? before 100, after 100? 200? etc... is it area? your adventuring level?

okay so jute is first tier reaping, easy enough, and cotton is second tier.... but is is locational for reaping how you raise it? my levels aren't going up at all just trying to harvest cotton around my home chunk of halgarad/derogar's post (yes it can be harvested there without leaving the chunk, just not as common as jute).

are the levels for reaping/skinning just random?

hoping someone has more of idea and can explain these things to me, thanks.

[Ysharros]

If you're not getting points from harvesting cotton, as someone else said, you should /petition because your skills are probably stuck. There is no other conceivable reason why you would *not* be getting points, unless reading/not reading the books borked something (which comes down to the same issue). For skinning, any time you harvest ratty hide you should have a chance at a skillup - what you get it from should be creatures 13-20odd; I'm not well enough versed in the mobs these days to offer any precise names, though the level 13 crocodiles near Natmeg Enos bunker in the Khal area used to yield it.

I've read some amateur books right at 100, others before 100, and have not had any problems. So far I have a miner/quarrier 100+, skinner/reaper 100+, and lumberjack/quarrier 100+. I haven't tried reading anything higher yet since I'm not at that stage... but I wonder if trying to do so might break something?

Not saying this to taunt you, but more to point out that this is how it should work and if you're not progressing in a given skill despite harvesting the right stuff, chances are you're bugged.

If you haven't already I'd make sure you try reading both Amateur Skinning & Reaping again. You might want to make sure you're not using the cheapo rusty starter tools, too - I don't *think* they would prevent you from skilling up but who knows. After that, if there's no change, I'd /petition.

[Drek]

novice, amateur, apprentice, initiate, and journeyman should be the normal order.

I am unsure of the skill levels for each rank.

I do know that

Skill level 1-99 = Novice

The requirement for Amateur is less than 200. I'm guessing 190, but as I read the Apprentice mining book with 198 skill I can't say anything for certain.

At 262 mining I still can't read the Initiate rank book, my guess is that you need 280 skill.

Following that tendency Journeyman rank would be 370 skill.


To advance you skill past 100 I believe you need to head to an area with level 10-19 mobs and harvest these, and then lvl 20-29 for the next rank.

Apparently each nodes "skillup value" is dependant on the level of the area it is found/located in.

Hope this helps more than it confuses.

[Triye]

I am also having a similiar problem as the original poster. Right outside Halagard I spoke to the Harvester outfitter. He told me about harvesting, yadda yadda yadda, then gave me a rusty axe and a simple quest. Cut down some pine saplings. Did that. Then he asked me to cut down more and make some timber. Did that. Then he told me to pick a primary, and secondary, did that.

Now nothing is happening. My lumberjacking is at a measley 27, and no matter how many pine saplings I chop, it doesnt go up. I've tried reading the book but I just get the you dont meet the required prerequisites message.

Perhaps this evening I will try and reset the primary skill. Then go back to lumberjacking and see if that breaks the rut(bug) I'm in. Though if anyone see's this post and realizes that I'm just doing something wrong. Please, let me know. This is my favored site, but even after searching thru 3 other VG sites, still no good guides out there on harvesting.

[Ysharros]

Pine saplings are for the training quest only, which means you may get no skillups from them afterwards. The stuff you harvest for the tutorial aren't "real" resources, and can't be used in recipes. If you're a lumberjack I suggest trying to find some "weakened [insert tree name]" in your local area - there should be some not too far afield - and cutting them down to see if you get any skillups.

[Ceyllynn]

Originally Posted by Ysharros

If you're not getting points from harvesting cotton, as someone else said, you should /petition because your skills are probably stuck. There is no other conceivable reason why you would *not* be getting points, unless reading/not reading the books borked something (which comes down to the same issue). For skinning, any time you harvest ratty hide you should have a chance at a skillup - what you get it from should be creatures 13-20odd; I'm not well enough versed in the mobs these days to offer any precise names, though the level 13 crocodiles near Natmeg Enos bunker in the Khal area used to yield it.

I've read some amateur books right at 100, others before 100, and have not had any problems. So far I have a miner/quarrier 100+, skinner/reaper 100+, and lumberjack/quarrier 100+. I haven't tried reading anything higher yet since I'm not at that stage... but I wonder if trying to do so might break something?

Not saying this to taunt you, but more to point out that this is how it should work and if you're not progressing in a given skill despite harvesting the right stuff, chances are you're bugged.

If you haven't already I'd make sure you try reading both Amateur Skinning & Reaping again. You might want to make sure you're not using the cheapo rusty starter tools, too - I don't *think* they would prevent you from skilling up but who knows. After that, if there's no change, I'd /petition.

/petition=bad idea... i did try that, and the GM was very nice and polite:

"even if i knew what the answer was, which i honestly don't, i couldn't tell you." (verbatim) basically, this kinda stuff doesn't fall into the catagory they Can help with... so i bugged it of course.. again.. cause i did bug it already days ago.

btw i'm not complaining about the GM! i sent the /petition about 1 min before the patch last night.. and they responded about a half hour after the game came back up.. great service!

i am using pristine tools, just to clarify on that point.
the skill ups with ratty seem a bit fubar'd as well....

i'm really going to be pissy if i have to fully raise up both again.. one is bad enough!

[Sigurd]

Actually, that comment earlier about 'chunks' may be something...

If it is intended as a risk v reward thing, maybe the chunk 'level' has some influence?

I mean it is one thing to try at least. Try running to VoH and going on the hill to right as u entering zone keeping that orientation of the Gnoll encampment in the 'green' area. I've seen cotton there in beta - haven't really looked recently as last time was in chunk I wasn't up to cotton yet. I am now (and have harvested in Veskals for skill points)

If that is so, it is probably a coding thing and GMs would have no clue that was intended. Let us know.

(Though since no one else is experiencing this and POSTING, I suspect it has to do with the books - IF you read the books before the right point and it was bugged enough to let you. It is not logical to think no other harvester has tried to level on cotton near home but it is logical to think less would have read an amatuer book before they were in spitting distance of that level.

For the record, I carried the next level books (100) with me and read them as soon as the skill hit 100 exactly, never even thought to try before the max level but that makes sense, in other games you would train JUST before the top of the tier...)(

[Triye]

Originally Posted by Ysharros

Pine saplings are for the training quest only, which means you may get no skillups from them afterwards. The stuff you harvest for the tutorial aren't "real" resources, and can't be used in recipes. If you're a lumberjack I suggest trying to find some "weakened [insert tree name]" in your local area - there should be some not too far afield - and cutting them down to see if you get any skillups.

Thanks big time Ysharros. I'll look around more tonight. The quest giver didnt say anything about moving on to weakened timber, after finishing, so I didn't know.

em> Walks off merrily singing, " Oh I am a lumberjack...."

**Update**,, Yep, found them, and now am the DEP's most wanted man. Thanks Again.!

[Ceyllynn]

the good news... reaping seems to be raising again...

bad news:

had to go to the harvest trainer, change my secondary to something else like quarrying, then back to reaping...

dropped my harvesting skill as well as nulling my reaping points... i'm just getting nervous about using a book at 100....

[Ysharros]

Yeah, that harvesting drop when you change a skill has been around for a long time - I didn't think it was intentional, but since it hasn't changed maybe it is (which is a shame). On the bright side, harvesting skill goes up pretty fast.

The skills sticking is a bug that's also been around for quite a long time - it seems to happen to some and not others (I've never seen it, through almost a dozen beta chars), so presumably it's been hard for them to pin down.

Glad you managed to find a way round it, even if it's a mildly painful one.