Why are harvesters not buying crafted tools?

[kreen]

Originally Posted by sherrjo

wow i didn't realise thanks for the tip i'm usually getting between 13-16 per harvest so getting 20+ would be a great increase.

I will buy said tools as soon as possible also from an RP point of view I prefer to buy from the market.

I would personally take vendors out of the game making it market driven

There are no player vendors in the game right now, only a broker for each continent so the game is market driven

One market for each continent, access via broker in each major town, everything viewable by the broker so you can buy the cheapest price, goods devlivered to you by mail

I don't understand the RP comment at all. If the above is your idea of RP then maybe home shopping really has come home to roost in VG

[sherrjo]

what i mean is that you can only buy items that have been crafted.

At the moment i can buy harvest tools from the harvest NPC vendor. Take him out of the game and you have then a market based solely on what people craft.

gives people the incentive to craft and creates a nice market for all levels of tools, components etc.

[Ysharros]

Originally Posted by sherrjo

what i mean is that you can only buy items that have been crafted.

At the moment i can buy harvest tools from the harvest NPC vendor. Take him out of the game and you have then a market based solely on what people craft.

gives people the incentive to craft and creates a nice market for all levels of tools, components etc.

I both agree and disagree. While I support the idea of 100% player markets, I know I'm one of the minority - many people who only play adventurers and/or have never tried crafting are incredibly suspicious of crafters. Sometimes with good reason, though usually it's the actions of a tiny minority of gougers and scammers that gives the rest of us a bad name. Point being, the question "Should we have ONLY crafted and looted gear?" is usually met with a great deal of hostility and resistance, and it may take a while for that perception to change.

On a more practical level, in a game's infancy it's not always possible to have everything player-made (or looted). Especially in a game like this one, where many of the more useful, specialised and/or desirable item recipes have to be quested for or otherwise discovered first. It makes sense, in that respect, to have basic stuff available on vendors - I certainly wouldn't want to be the budding harvester who finds out she can't harvest anything because she can't find any tools because the crafters haven't discovered the recipes yet. (Especially since the crafters would probably get the hate even if it really wasn't their fault - they usually seem to. )

So, while I would *like* to see most, if not all things, made by crafters, much as they were in SWG, I don't mind there being very basic NPC vendors around. As a last but not least, since it's a highly loot-driven game as well as a crafting-driven game, we need vendors to sell our trash to - unlike SWG, where loot wasn't much of an issue and/or was useable or displayable in one's house or whatever.

More closely on the original topic, I checked the Shidreth-LN broker yesterday and saw a lovely selection of tier 2 tools available. The only reason I didn't buy any -- reasonS, actually -- is because I'm not adventuring or Work Ordering much and thus am rather nastily broke, and because I have a weaponsmith who just hit level 12 and I *so* want to try and make some of those for myself. I may cave and buy a pickaxe in the meantime though, just to up my mining yield.

[Shinto]

I have gone to several cities and looked at the buyables, and it seems like the drops and crafted gear both are better than the vendor items in most cases. Sure, there are some trash drops, and particularly at low levels the vendor looks nice, but overall they aren't going to play much of a role after level 10.

[Fyrestrom]

The vendor items were actually hand crafted by the Devs...

You dont think they were actually coding for 5 years do you?

[sorkvir]

I LOVE pristine tin harvesting tools.

I have a lvl ~110 lumberjack and last night I found a Thorny Pine tree. Pulled out a whopping 16 stacks of wood from it.

Thanks all you manufactuers!