Ingot grade determining grade of finished product?

Drek · 02-06-2007, 09:11 AM

I think I see a pattern in my crafting where the final product often(always) is of the same grade as the ingot used, as opposed to the grade suggested by the crafting process.

I have now noticed several items that in the process were grade A but after finishing came out grade B. These were made from grade B ingots.

I've also had a crafting process that was a D but the final item came out a B and was made from grade B or mainly grade B ingots.

And I've had B's turn into A's while using A ingots.

Anyone else seen the pattern or am I just seeing things....or both?

This is from blacksmithing/weaponsmithing btw. Don't know if it is the same for other professions.

TheKnight · 02-06-2007, 09:58 AM

Well, just use A ingots then!

Drek · 02-06-2007, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TheKnight

Well, just use A ingots then!

They're a "#&¤"¤ to make grade A though, at my current level.

Ingots are unreasonably hard to make.
Oughta be a very basic recipe but you have to have pretty much reached the next tier to make them well.

Iendan · 02-06-2007, 10:46 AM

although ive never actually used less than grade A ingots (started actual crafting much after igot the recipe) i would guess they affect the grade, but probably dont dictate it, kinda like the choice between the 100 pt finishing action and the 0pt one, hurts it but doesnt always bring it down a grade.

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Ysharros · 02-06-2007, 11:31 AM

I just noticed something similar this morning - I made one of the new bits of armour and, although I KNOW it was a C when I did the finishing move, somehow when it got into my inventory it was a B. However, the sheets I used to make it were As, as was the... whatchamacallit secondary item.

I thought I'd just imagined things, but now I'm not so sure.

Shinto · 02-06-2007, 02:14 PM

The grade of the ingot, the attach, and the finish all affect the grade of the product. I have seen the effects of this.

Drek · 02-06-2007, 03:41 PM

It's rather confusing imo that the grade you have while crafting isn't the same as what you get when finishing the product.

That requires a whole new level of prediction (guessing).

Lancelot · 02-06-2007, 05:01 PM

I havent noticed this personally but I do know that a Grade A ignot is worth a grade boost on both the primary and secondary . The boost is half of Grade D per item. Or a perfect 100 pointer .

So if you want an A you probobly want grade A ignots.

As far as making a grade A ignot reliably I'd gauge you need to be 7 levels higher than the ignot recipe. So level 8 for copper or level 18 for tin and so on . You can make then at level and 7 and 17 respectivly but with te current complication frequency chances are you'll fail half the time and loose half your ore.

Drek · 02-06-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lancelot

I havent noticed this personally but I do know that a Grade A ignot is worth a grade boost on both the primary and secondary . The boost is half of Grade D per item. Or a perfect 100 pointer .

So if you want an A you probobly want grade A ignots.

As far as making a grade A ignot reliably I'd gauge you need to be 7 levels higher than the ignot recipe. So level 8 for copper or level 18 for tin and so on . You can make then at level and 7 and 17 respectivly but with te current complication frequency chances are you'll fail half the time and loose half your ore.

I think the tin ingot recipe is actually level 14, though you can acquire it when you've done your specialization quest.

Shinto · 02-06-2007, 06:52 PM

I forget when exactly I got the tin ingot recipe, but I do think that it was closer to 14 than 11. I know that I currently have a recipe for an iron weapon, but not for an iron ingot. Perhaps this is done so that by the time you master ingots, you can actually make the weapons.