[Sigurd]

Well, to be fair - it was my fault.

I never realized in beta (doh) that the 'bite' abil you got when you did the spirit walk worked while NOT in animal form. I mean... something like 'savage bite' or whatever and you get to transform into a wolf... so I ASSumed of course it made sense that that abil was only avail to you in wolf form... since in beta I was always in wolf form, I didn't find out otherwise.

So my bad - my inference argument for why we should expect to be in both form and have the pet is gone.

I still feel some of the other changes, like reducing wolf form speed is a little too much since I see the other 2 forms/pets have much stronger specialization. If the shaman is in a grp at higher levels, maybe the bear isn't good - but the buffs he gets are quite useful to the main tank and the bear is still a good temp offtanker. Phoenix is great in a grp for a 'free' dot and of course mana-related buffs. Wolf - since lost the + to spell dmg also, seems not good to be ever in wolf form but the wolf pet is so minor in dps add, it nearly pays to take the +8% in the form and melee some more... still not as good as the tuurgin melee though.

Tuurgin / Hayatet guys have any envy of Rakurr? It may be I am looking at it wrong since only tried the other pets in beta.