[Ysharros]

Refining always seems to get more complications for me, I'm not sure why (my skills being about even in both refining and finishing). Also, calling the Jute Bag a relatively easy recipe depends very much on your level - it's only now that my Outfitter is level 11 that she can hit As most of the time. Before that, I was happy with Cs and ecstatic with Bs. Since it doesn't change the number of slots unless you get a pristine, it doesn't matter so much with the bags in any case.

Note that your tailoring skill will play a large part in things too. If it's low, nothing you do will be as effective - again, I did dreadfully at bags till I had about 50+ tailoring.

I understand your frustrations, trust me (my venting elsewhere in this forum is proof of that) but reading what Silius has been posting in the last few days has made me realise that my expectations were a little too high. I'm not sure it's right that C grade should be the "average" but it is, and the crafting team also expect 4-6 complications to be the norm.

It doesn't sit perfectly with me yet - for me, 4 complications are bearable but more than that and I start feeling victimised by the table. However, knowing that the system is set up to make it hard for me to get more than a C on a moderate recipe does help a little -- so if the WO range holds, a Jute Bag would be moderate until level 9 inclusive and would drop to a high-easy at 10 -- and you can still get a butt ton of comps at easy. On a moderate WO, I *do* have to get lucky to get a B and extremely lucky to get an A.

Like I said, I'd rather the baseline were shifted just a tiny bit towards higher quality and less complications - but I'm not a dev, and what I'm asking for is probably the thin end of the wegde. Gear will become more plentiful and people will start passing it down, people will learn how to work the system and their skills more efficiently, and so on -- so what is insanely frustrating for us now might just be relatively difficult 6 months or 2 years down the line. And they have to cater for that - so, having calmed myself down a bit, I can understand why I'm probably not going to get my "tiny bit easier" wish.

Dunno if this helps at all, but you do have my sympathy. It helps me to know there's a good reason for it being so damned annoying sometimes (oh, and there was a buglet mixed in there too which I don't thinks has been fixed to live yet) - maybe it'll make it a little easier for you too.