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Originally Posted by Greymain
Could we perhaps explore another definition of casual / hardcore namely attitude.
Casual - No commitment to the game. Got it for Christmas only play cos nothing else to do. The account is shared with a few mates and they gather to have a bit of fun. they just to muck about or show off. They are the ones who cant be bothered to give their characters a proper name they spam and grief. They crave instant gratification, They join guilds and steal guild gear. When their reputation is bad they just create a new alt. They dont hang around very long or get banned then linger on the forums as trolls.
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I so totally disagree with that definition of "casual!" I consider myself a casual gamer!! You can be committed to something and not have to physically be there 24/7! Or even 8/7! I had many
very commited individuals in our guild who could give no more than a few hours a week, but when they were there, they were THERE! And they checked the boards, gave input...all the things many who were there every waking hour wouldn't do!
I also disagree that every degree of raiding should always have loot associated with it, but then, I've always been wierd! This attitude, tho, has spoiled the mentality of raiding/grouping and the games development. I'd much rather see us go back to the Seb style where you might all get rich off of VT or gems, but not all raids had uber rewards. We were there for the fun and maybe some much needed cash for crafting or buying from crafters. Those where days when games were fun, tho...not loot-driven farmers/raiders messing up the economy and attitudes.
So, yeah...I'm one of the originals and very wierd! I like to enjoy the people I'm with and raid/group for the fun and for learning more about my, and the other's, classes! I hope to pete they have a way of turning VSoH back to that way of game life!!